Subdivision 9 of § 7 of the Bankruptcy Act of 1898 and the
immunity afforded by it are not applicable to a prosecution for
perjury committed by the bankrupt when examined under it.
The constitutional guarantee of the Fifth Amendment does not
deprive the lawmaking authority of the power to compel the giving
of testimony, even though the testimony when given may serve to
incriminate the witness, provided complete immunity be
accorded.
The sanction of an oath and imposition of punishment for false
swearing are inherent parts of the power to compel giving
testimony, and are not prohibited by immunity as to
self-incrimination.
The immunity afforded by the Fifth Amendment relates to the
past; it is not a license to the person testifying to commit
perjury either under the provisions as to the giving of testimony
in § 860, Rev.Stat., or of the Bankruptcy Act of 1898.
The provisions in the Bankruptcy Act compelling testimony do not
confer an immunity wider than that conferred by the Constitution
itself.
A statute in regard to giving testimony which does not provide
for prosecution for perjury will not be construed as permitting
perjury because in other statutes in that regard Congress has, from
abundant caution, inserted provisions as to prosecution for
perjury.
Edelstein v. United States, 149 F. 636;
Wechler v.
United States, 158 F. 579, approved.
In re Marx, 102
F. 679;
In re Logan, 102 F. 876, disapproved.
The facts, which involve the construction of subdivision 9, § 7
of the Bankruptcy Act of 1898, are stated in the opinion.
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MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WHITE delivered the opinion of the Court.
Glickstein, an adjudicated bankrupt, was indicted for perjury in
having falsely sworn in the bankruptcy proceeding, while under
examination before a referee, as required by the seventh section,
subdiv. 9, of the Bankrupt Act of 1898. The indictment was demurred
to on the following grounds:
"(a) A prosecution for perjury against a bankrupt at a meeting
of his creditors will not lie; (b) the indictment was based upon
testimony given by the bankrupt, affecting the administration and
settlement of his estate; (c) a person cannot be compelled in any
criminal case to be a witness against himself."
At the trial which followed the overruling of the demurrer, the
testimony of Glickstein which was the subject of the indictment was
offered and objected to on the same grounds upon which the demurrer
was based, and exceptions were taken to the admission of the
testimony in evidence.
When the legality of a conviction and sentence of Glickstein was
before the court below, as the result of error prosecuted by him,
the court, stating the facts which we have recited, certified the
following question: "Is subsec. 9 and the immunity afforded by it
applicable to a prosecution for perjury committed by the bankrupt
when examined under it?"
Section 7, subdiv. 9, which we are required to consider in order
to solve the question, is as follows:
"The bankrupt shall . . . (9) when present at the first meeting
of his creditors, and at such other times as the court shall order,
submit to an examination concerning the conducting of his business,
the cause of his bankruptcy, his dealings with his creditors and
other persons, the amount, kind, and whereabouts of his property,
and, in addition, all matters which may affect the administration
and settlement of his estate; but no testimony given
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by him shall be offered in evidence against him in any criminal
proceeding."
It is difficult to determine from the contentions urged in favor
of an affirmative answer whether it is deemed the solution of the
problem requires us to decide a question of constitutional right or
simply calls for an interpretation of the provision of the Bankrupt
Act to which the question relates. To exclude irrelevant matter,
and to confine our attention to the precise subject to be passed
upon, we state certain propositions which are not open to
controversy, because foreclosed by decisions of this Court, or
which, if not expressly foreclosed, are so indubitably the result
of settled principles as to cause them also to be not subject to
reasonable dispute.
1st. It is undoubted that the constitutional guaranty of the
Fifth Amendment does not deprive the lawmaking authority of the
power to compel the giving of testimony, even although the
testimony, when given, might serve to incriminate the one
testifying, provided immunity be accorded, the immunity, of course,
being required to be complete -- that is to say, in all respects
commensurate with the protection guaranteed by the constitutional
limitation. The authorities which establish this elementary
proposition are too numerous to be cited, and we therefore simply
refer to a few of the leading cases on the subject:
Counselman
v. Hitchcock, 142 U. S. 547;
Brown v. Walker, 161 U. S. 591;
Burrell v. Montana, 194 U. S. 572,
194 U. S. 578;
Jack v. Kansas, 199 U. S. 372;
Ballmann v. Fagin, 200 U. S. 186,
200 U. S. 195;
Hale v. Henkel, 201 U. S. 43,
201 U. S. 66,
and
Heike v. United States, 217 U.
S. 423.
2nd. As the authority which the proposition just stated embraces
exists, and as the sanction of an oath and the imposition of a
punishment for false swearing are inherently a part of the power to
compel the giving of testimony, they are included in that grant of
authority, and are not prohibited by the immunity as to
self-incrimination. Of
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course, this proposition is essentially the resultant of the
first, since, unless it be well founded, the first also must be
wanting in foundation. This must be the result, as it cannot be
conceived that there is power to compel the giving of testimony
where no right exists to require that the testimony shall be given
under such circumstances and safeguards as to compel it to be
truthful. In other words, this is but to say that an authority
which can only extend to the licensing of perjury is not a power to
compel the giving of testimony. Of course, these propositions being
true, it is also true that the immunity afforded by the
constitutional guaranty relates to the past, and does not endow the
person who testifies with a license to commit perjury. That this is
not disputable is shown by the fact that it has been accepted as
self-evident in providing for immunity for one compelled to
testify, as shown by the reservation in Rev.Stat. § 860, declaring
that the immunity shall not extend to "exempt any party or witness
from prosecution and punishment for perjury committed in
discovering or testifying as aforesaid," and, by a like provision,
contained in the Act of February 11, 1893, 27 Stat. p. 443, c. 83.
The first of these provisions was considered in
Counselman v.
Hitchcock, supra, and the second in
Brown v. Walker,
supra, where it was expressly decided that the statute
containing it complied with the constitutional guaranty.
With these propositions in hand, it follows that the precise
question for decision is did the guaranty of immunity contained in
the ninth subdivision of § 7 of the Bankrupt Act bar a prosecution
for perjury for false swearing in giving testimony under the
command of the section? In other words, the sole question is does
the statute, in compelling the giving of testimony, confer an
immunity wider than that guaranteed by the Constitution? The
argument to maintain that it does is that, as the statute provides
for immunity, and does not contain the
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reservation found in either § 860, Rev.Stat., or that embodied
in the Act of 1893, therefore, under the rule that the inclusion of
one is the exclusion of the other, such reservation cannot be
implied. Or, to state the proposition in another form, it is that,
as the statute in the immunity clause says, "[b]ut no testimony
given by him [the witness who is compelled to be examined] shall be
offered in evidence against him in any criminal proceeding," and as
these words are unambiguous, there is no room for limiting the
language so as to cause the immunity provision not to prohibit the
offer of the testimony in a criminal prosecution for perjury. But
the contention assumes the question for decision, since it excludes
the possibility of construction when, on the face of the statute,
the meaning attributed to the immunity clause cannot be given to it
without destroying the words of the statute and frustrating its
obvious object and intent. This may not be denied, since the
statute expressly commands the giving of testimony and its manifest
purpose is to secure truthful testimony, while the limited and
exclusive meaning which the contention attributes to the immunity
clause would cause the section to be a mere license to commit
perjury, and hence not to command the giving of testimony in the
true sense of the word.
The argument that, because the section does not contain an
expression of the reservation of a right to prosecute for perjury
in harmony with the reservations in Rev.Stat., 860, and the Act of
1893, therefore it is to be presumed that it was intended that no
such right should exist, we think, simply begs the question for
decision, since it is impossible in reason to conceive that
Congress commanded the giving of testimony, and at the same time
intended that false testimony might be given with impunity, in the
absence of the most express and specific command to that
effect.
Bearing in mind the subject dealt with, we think the reservation
of the right to prosecute for perjury, made in the
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statutes to which we have referred, was but the manifestation of
abundant caution, and hence, the absence of such reservation in the
statute under consideration may not be taken as indicative of an
intention on the part of Congress that perjury might be committed
at pleasure.
Some of the considerations which we have pointed out were
accurately expounded in
Edelstein v. United States, 149 F.
636, by the Circuit Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, and in
Wechsler v. United States, 158 F. 579, by the Circuit
Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. And this leads us to
observe that the necessary result of the conclusion now reached is
to disapprove the opinions in
In re Marx, 102 F. 676, and
In re Logan, 102 F. 876.
It follows that the question propounded must receive a negative
answer, and our order will be,
Question certified answered "No."